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 Stackable washer and dryer
Author: lhowe (MT)

I want to install a stacking washer/dryer in a kitchen, so it is a tight space. They will be next to an exterior wall, and a pantry. Because of space, I do not want to leave "accessible" space next to to the washer/dryer. So how/where do we install the plumbing connections such that they can be accessed with a dryer on top, and how do we install the dryer vent such that it can be connected when pushing a dryer back 3 feet up in the air? The literature shows these units installed in practically closets with as limited of space as we have, but nobody seemss to know or even understand the accessibility of the valving and connections in general.

Thanks
Laura

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 Re: Stackable washer and dryer
Author: dlh (TX)

they are usually piped in the back, connected then pushed back into place. you must have a little space between the wall and the unit for the hoses and pipe just like larger models.

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 Re: Stackable washer and dryer
Author: e-plumber (NY)

The water and drain connections are generally not a problem, neither is the electric. For the dryer exhaust, some models are capable of venting out of the side of the dryer if that helps in your situation or you will need access for your hands to reach in to make the connection for the dryer exhaust.

The stack-able unit can also be piped in with precise measurements and slid into position and the male exhaust outlet will line up perfectly with your female fitting that vents to the outside.

How do you plan on installing the drain and water supply lines?

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 Re: Stackable washer and dryer
Author: lhowe (MT)

but doesn't installing it this way limit access to the valves and drain? Not that these need to be accessed very often, but with the recommendations of shutting off water for vacations, it seems that valves should be accessible, also in the case of a problem. I don't want to have the pull the entire washer/dryer stack out just to turn the water on and off.

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 Re: Stackable washer and dryer
Author: lhowe (MT)

I'm thinking of having the vent slightly offset. I am skeptical that a perfect alginment would be made and just pushing the dryer back will make a good connection. Plus, then how would you secure the connection?

I am still wondering about the plumbing installation. How/where to install the valves such that they are available without pulling the entire stack out?

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 Re: Stackable washer and dryer
Author: e-plumber (NY)

To do this job properly according to Plumbing code, there's quite a bit involved if you're starting from scratch. I've seen some installations that worked but did not come remotely close to meeting code. My honest suggestion, call a licensed Plumber, have him take a look-see.

-A washing machine stand pipe & trap is needed.
-A (Plumbing) vent line is needed.
-H & C shut off valves are needed, (in an accessible location).
-Either electrical or gas work is probably needed.

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exalted activity will have neither good Plumbing nor good philosophy: neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water." -
John William Gardner 10/8/1912 - 2/16/2002

Repair your leaking Plumbing fixtures ASAP [www.theplumber.com]
This slow drip will waste 7+ gallons of water per day.

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 Re: Stackable washer and dryer
Author: jblanche (WI)

Not clear to me if you're stacking separate washer and dryer or if you have a one-piece combo unit. If you have stackables it might be worth the trouble to put in a (sturdy) shelf for the dryer with an appropriate cutout so you can put the dryer in place first and run a vent out the back of the dryer and 90 degrees down before pushing the washer back.

Otherwise can you ...

1. Vent the dryer above? Cut through the exterior wall above the height of the dryer. While the unit(s) are pulled out from the wall attach a 3' or so vent pipe to the dryer outlet. After it's pushed back in place reach over the top to make the final connection. If you have headroom!

2. Put valves behind a wall access panel or valve box next to or in front of the washer? You could have the ball valves accessible and just pipe copper or PEX from those valves to the washing machine hose bibbs behind the unit.

3. Cut out the side of the pantry to create an access panel? With a beveled cut and a piano hinge opening into the pantry it might work depending on your pantry shelving configuration. This would help with venting but would not be good for regular valve access. Also you would want this fairly well-sealed to keep lint out of your food.

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 Re: Stackable washer and dryer
Author: hj (AZ)

the people who designed these units never considered those situations. If there is a little room at the side you can install the washer's valves and drains in the side wall.

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 Re: Stackable washer and dryer
Author: jjbex (IL)

When you go on vacation, you shut off the main, not the individual fixtures. Even if there's no main, if you take 1 vavcation a year, it's only once a year to reach back and shut off the valves.

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 Re: Stackable washer and dryer
Author: dlh (TX)

you dont want to leave accessible space. there is no way to make something accessible if there is no space for it.

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 Re: Stackable washer and dryer
Author: hj (AZ)

Accessible space is what is between the washer and the side wall, if such a space exists.

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 Re: Stackable washer and dryer
Author: redwood (CT)

And usually near the front between the washer and dryer.

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